Fears / Concerns about project Eplay

[Auto-Lottery.co.uk]

Hi Guys,

I had a really good conversation with a friend of mine earlier this evening. I was trying to get him to register on my Evo site, and he had some very valid questions. Here was the general gist of the conversation...

ME:
So have you heard about project eplay then?

HIM:
No, what's that?

ME:
It's a online business opportunity that is set to be absolutely huge! What's even better is that if you register now, you'll have a distinct advantage over many people, who won't find out about this until July 15th, when it's officially launched to the public

HIM:
Ok so exactly what is it then?

ME:
Well as far as I know, it's going to be a skill-based gaming website, where people can play on-line games against each other, as well as elements of social networking.... It's the fastest growing sector of the internet, and you should get involved before everyone else does!

HIM:
Sounds interesting...... so how do I make money from it?

ME:
Well you recieve a commission from games played when people visit your own personalised gaming site.....you also recieve commission from games played on peoples gaming sites in your downline!

HIM:
ok..... so how many people will be involved in this?

ME:
With the way things are going, and the rate of interest in this business....most likely millions!

HIM:
So....won't my "personal" site be in direct competition with millions of others?

ME:
errr.....

HIM:
And once the business is up and running, why would anyone come to my site?.....Surely if its a turnkey business, people will simply want to join themselves and only play games on their own site?

ME:
well err...

HIM:
For example, all the people in my downline......if any of them wanted to play games, they'd surely only play on their own site.....why go and play a game on someone elses site?...... So effectively the only income being generated would be when I play games on my own site??

ME:
Not 100% sure on this one....err...

HIM:
Which leaves affiliate payments....you receive commissions from people in your downline?

ME:
Yes there are numerous ways you earn commision from people in your downline.....matching bonus, etc, etc

HIM:
And what happens to the people at the bottom of the "Pyramid"?

ME:
OH NO!! It's not a pyramid thing I can assure you!!! It's MLM

HIM:
Ok.... so how do all of these people at the bottom earn money then? They won't be earning affiliate commissions as they'll be at the bottom of the tree....so the only way they can earn money is if people visit theur site and play games.....which is unlikely as there will be so, so many people with identical sites, your site will get lost amongst the millions of others......which leavs you making a profit by playing the games yourself! So these people at the bottom are seriously losing out.......Just like a pyramid scheme

ME:
No, no, No it's not a pyramid! Look at their (VWD's) existing business..... people sign up to this every day!.....

HIM:
Yeah I can see the appeal of e-lottery......YOUR'E playing the lottery each week for free....but the people at the bottom of your downline aren't......they stay in it because they have a chance of winning the lottery each week......they're paying to be in a syndicate.

ME:
Exactly!

HIM:
But this is nothing like the Evo thingy is it......what are people at the bottom going to be paying their monthly payment for? So they can have a games website exactly the same as a million other people? Not only this, but I'll have to PAY to play these games, which are completely FREE to play on many other skill-gaming sites!

ME:
errr...(Staying positive)..I'm sure VWD have thought of all this! I'm sure they'll tell everyone at the BIG launch!

HIM:
At the end of the day, VWD will make millions from this.....they're at the top of the pyramid......people play skills games in their millions...there's no denying it.....and every game played will earn VWD money.....hats off to them....wish i'd thought of it!........but I can't see how it will make money for ME......good luck with it, but count me out of this one

ME:
(not sure what to say!)

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Ok so there are my fears of Prject Evo / Project Eplay....... I really hope someone can put my mind at rest over these fears.....maybe VWD have a trick up their sleeve that no-one has thought of? Maybe they'll be offering a Million pound prize to everyone invloved each month as an incentive to stay playing?? Who knows!

By the way.....sorry if it sounds like I'm putting a dampener on things......it's just questions I'm sure others will ask

Comments anyone??

[syndicateworld]

Great post! I asked something similar, albeit not as eloquently, yesterday, but to no avail as I guess no one knows. But then I started thinking about it and the scenario of a million identical competing games sites is so ludicrous that VWD would have to be crazy to even think of it. And we all know they're just the opposite of that.

So what I'm thinking now is that it'll be one huge site and everyone online will be able to play with anyone and everyone else. But whoever introduced you in the first place is the one who'll earn commission on the play. Otherwise what would happen is that if you only have a few players on your site, they'll leave you and go and play with one of the big boys like Don Failla with thousands of players and all of us small fish would end up with no one.

Also, perhaps like elottery there'll be pure players, and player affiliates.

[Neal Tucker]

I had the same with my post with off line marketing ( got my EVO butt kicked), lot's of answers and concerns need to be addressed, after all, we are all being encourage to pro motte, pro motte, get in before its too late,
you will miss the train,

But really, I think we should have been given every single bit of information so we can make an intelligent and informed decision, as to what is, after all another ........internet opportunitie.....
which people receive every day in there inbox,

perhaps the capture sites should only have been up and running after pre-launch when we will have every thing revealed, as I feel like a blind rat at the moment with the embarrassing position of losing respect from family and friends if it dose turn into white elephant.

I feel we really do need more info as we have some real valid points and concerns coming in.

[tottenham boy]

The suspense is killing us isn't it LOL all part of the fun and all ads to the excitement

Not long until the 15th now.......

[haukacik]

I agree with one huge big site...with many affiliate doorway websites...so once someone get in he can play with all others.

As to playing those games for FREE somewhere else...well they can...but here you can win money, I think, you can qualify to play for free like elottery...I hope...you can make your own P2P games...or create your own tournaments.

People at the bottom?...I think it will be still the same as with elottery..they will join because the product will be good for using. and where is the bottom?...they say there will be million players...let´s face it..it is nothing in our world...how many people lives on this planet?...I know..not all of them have PC..... I live in a very small country...but 1 million users could come from this country alone..and where is the rest of the europe, americas, australia??

This is all very theorethical, I know...but I will tell you something....VWD always takes care of their members and affiliates. So I bet it will work for us. And thinking about fears will get you nowhere...When I started with elottery...there were same people saying..ahh ..that is "pyramid"...bla-bla-bla...you will never make money from that...bla-bla-bla....I never listened to them..and now?...here I am...with a very nice residual monthly income.. :D ...think about winning, about increasing your business...I have been with VWD for 4 years and I can tell you that there are no doubts and fears about VWD.

[syndicateworld]

Inspiring post. I do agree though that it's not easy promoting something you know so little about.

I've given this some more thought over breakfast and I think VWD have made a small mistake in the way they've presented it to us. Talking about "having your own game site is cool" and explaining how we can stage our own contests etc. etc. has given the impression that we NEED to do that to earn from this.

I think what they actually mean is that we earn anyway just by introducing people to this huge site where everyone can play everyone else but that we can also, if we so choose, do stuff independently and earn ever more money.

I suppose they were telling us that as an extra cherry on the cake but instead, it's come across to some of us as though that's what you need to do. I feel a lot better thinking that I don't actually have to become some kind of gamesmaster as I have no idea about online games and just as little interest!

[Affhouse]

Originally Posted by Auto-Lottery.co.uk

Hi Guys,

I had a really good conversation with a friend of mine earlier this evening. I was trying to get him to register on my Evo site, and he had some very valid questions. Here was the general gist of the conversation...

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Ok so there are my fears of Prject Evo / Project Eplay....... I really hope someone can put my mind at rest over these fears.....maybe VWD have a trick up their sleeve that no-one has thought of? Maybe they'll be offering a Million pound prize to everyone invloved each month as an incentive to stay playing?? Who knows!

By the way.....sorry if it sounds like I'm putting a dampener on things......it's just questions I'm sure others will ask

Comments anyone??

What I think you have missed is that not everybody is going to be an affiliate or in it to make money.

There will be thousands of users who just want to enjoy themselves.

Here's an example:
Nearly 100% of all online bookmakers have really good referral schemes. Now some people use this to their advantage and make money but 99% of other people use the site purely to gamble.

Once this thing launches, you can either advertise to players or affiliates. It looks cloudy now because it's only open to affiliates.

[haukacik]

yes..I think, during evo pre-pre launch and also pre-launch we should only promote to get people interested in doing business..and looking for players after launch.

for business people we know almost everything about 6 ways of earning...payplan..and that is 90% what those people are interested in.

[goldfinger]

If the game site is like King or Pogo (which the company tells us it is), then there's absolutely no problem. It doesn't matter who's site someone plays on - they are all identifified by the affiliate membership number.

Say your site is #1020 and you refer site #1070 and they refer 6,000 other sites (not competition, but in YOUR downline!) and someone then decides to play on site # 108994 (which is there because of your original referral 6 months ago). If that person decides to pay to play, guess what?

The commission can be traced right back to you!!

In MLM you should never consider other sites as competition. That's why we're all trying to build as big a referral list as possible.

And as for the old chestnut "Oh, it's OK for those in at the top, but what happens to the suckers at the bottom of the pyramid?"...

It doesn't matter WHEN you join - it only matters what happens AFTER you join. There will be affiliates who will join 5 years from now who will earn more than people who joined yesterday! Why? Because they will get more customers! It's all about CONSUMERS. The more consumers you have in your team, the more money you will make. Period.

Most people confuse the bigger earners with having "got in at the top". It's nothing to do with it- it's purely that they have been building a business longer and so it stands to simple reason that they have more customers, but that doens't mean someone joining in 5 years time cannot get 10million customers within a year and earn more!

Boy I do get wound up with people who don't understand basic business. MLM is no different to any other business model - it's just fairer and more transparent!

That's me done.

[haukacik]

nicely said goldfinger!!