am i supposed to give em another £100
i thought all your downline went upline?
i can understand em keeping the downline downline revenue fine
but your own downline also?
like to keep trucking it's gonna cost me basically another £100
and game revenue? 12% odd of 50p
(im disregarding the bit where they keep 50% of that)
my calculator says thats 6p
what does it say on yours
ok 25%
12p
?
£65
?
says i need over 500 games played to break even.
so far i've not got one player.
500?
amway had a one off fee of £75
and again they made there money on the 'system' not the products.
and yes they sued now all over the world
ok ban me now.
chris
Its up to you to go find the players mate, let the world know your link and players will join
You say only 6p, imagine when there is 10,000 games per month being played on your games platform, you might laugh at 10,000 but when the tournements start this is easily achievable
10,000 games x 6p = £600
Imagine 20,000 games being played, 30,000
I myself this weekend alone have completed 109 games, that is from friday night to sunday morning
You have a invested interest though TB, just like me.
I've now got 70 players of whom 2 payed money last cycle...........no-one has paid anything this cycle.
I've challenged all my sign ups at least once and no-one has responded !
I'm waiting for the site to be upgraded with IM and hopefully a couple of more games..........then I'll send out an email to invite them back to take a look.
Like I said....it would be great to have a tool that lets you see how many times MY OWN players have visited and played games.
I cannot understand why we have to pay the 65 pounds a month for half business. Ok if all the games where on the the site including tournament mode and the instant messenger then may be it could justify its price, but at this moment in time I think vwd is out of order in charging this price.
Ok some one will say dont pay it then, join when its all up and running but to do that I lose the prospects ect that I have worked to get.
At this moment in time there is nothing to sell half a dozen games (not much to chose from) So people will get board and not come back.
During this soft launch faze once you have paid your 200 pound it should be free or a hell of a lot cheaper till every thing is in place. This would give you a chance to carry on promoting and building your biz.
I for one cannot afford to keep paying this 65 quid
I don't think many can Stewy ( only the wealthy ).
Maybe that's why I ain't got any interest below me.
I won't be able to pay the £65 for very long either, so I'll do my bit for now with what I've got, but if it drifts past April without much improvement that'll be me out.
Which then means all those with the money above us, will get the benefit of whatever me and thee have done/spent.
You could always be just games promoters for now until you start making some money to pay for the associate side of things, this is something i am considering
amway had a one off fee of £75
and again they made there money on the 'system' not the products.
and yes they sued now all over the world
ok ban me now.
chris
p.s.
should you now ban me
it umm
proves a point?
Hi Chris,
I am still a registered Amway member, but have not done anything with amway for over 10 years now.
Last year I recieved a letter from amway explaining how the tools system was being stopped. I think you will find it was not Amways tools as the company never had a system in place, the tools were created by upline distributors, which yes did create large income for top Amway members, when we were with Amway we were spending a lot more that £65 per month on the tools system, including weekly, monthly and 3 monthly functions + petrol and other expences.
WOW I JUST ADDED IT UP ON MY CALCULATOR
We were paying out over £250 per month for the system and we did this for over 7 years and we NEVER made a penny.
I realised that the upline must have made there fortunes from the tools and that why we stopped building or should I say trying to build an Amway business.
Even one of our upline Dimonds discontinued his massive business because he knew that ordinary distributors had no chance of making money from the business.
Here is a link Bo Short my EX upline is on this
When we looked at the VWD business and when we joined we went into profit in the second week.
It took 10 years to earn nothing from Amway and 2 weeks to make money from VWD, I personaly don't know of any other MLM's that can offer what VWD can and still do.
LOL anyone want to but some tapes
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i've got or rather had all the tapes, but however i did make a profit,
but then i copied the tapes for downline, bought the books discount, made me own buscards, went cheap to meetings etc. must admit i learn't a LOT about people etc. I couldn't see why others couldn't see it. but that was all explained, yes the 'system' was outside the core business, but they are being swed for millions last time i looked anyway. Past the 9% bit they tell ya 'look this is how it really works' but also say 'but we haven't lied have we' which they hadn't.
But thats quite fair i think, if people tell you the rules and what is going on.
then you have a choice. tho for your money you did get books, get to attend meetings, have tapes which you could sell on, etc. you did get something for ya money. my moan here is that for 65 you arn't actually buying anything,
it's gonna be like the busses (?) they want more profit so they put up the prices, less people then get on the busses, so they up the price again, and again less get on the busses.
here at 65 less people are prepared to pay that, so the price will go up. but if they brought the price DOWN more people would stay. i.e. 25% of 60 is £15 but 25% 20 is £5, but ya gonna have more people paying the £20 then the £60 by over 33% so there is more profit for the company with the £20 figure. umm other companys. . . recognised that this was how the 'system' worked, so they only went for rich people, (individual meeting were totally set up to get one specific person in) as if all rich people did join in they would make a profit and dont mind paying what to them would be a minimal price
X analysis
somewhere between high price less turnover
and low price more turnover
is the idea price.
65 int it!
appologies here, i've windged a bit and been off topic, feel free to delete stuff, had a bad week.
i'm still not clear on the games promoter bit, which works fine by me, i can see that its just a question of making a profit, and maybe having to play a few games, do some advertising etc. thats fine. what i'm not sure about is that if i dont pay me 65 then i lose all me people that might eventually play when things get going.
I've no problem with losing the income from downline that are paying 65 and there teams but would like to be assured that all me potential players (about 1500 odd, will not suddenly vanish upline, like where is the descrition of 'games promoter' on the uVme site?
I don't think many can Stewy ( only the wealthy ).
Maybe that's why I ain't got any interest below me.
I won't be able to pay the £65 for very long either, so I'll do my bit for now with what I've got, but if it drifts past April without much improvement that'll be me out.
Which then means all those with the money above us, will get the benefit of whatever me and thee have done/spent.
Could you cut back in your life on anything that could save you £65 per month mate ie do you smoke, instaed of having 2 pints have one. Don't buy a paper each day, anything that could save you that £65 mate
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